Equipment i need for a good home studio

The name says it all! Discuss Steve's studios, your studios and gear set-ups, amps and effects here. This is not for discussing guitars (Steve's or otherwise).
pagliai
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also for drums:
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... ?sku=TT103
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=BS-381
http://www.ilio.com/sonicreality/idrum/index.html
of course you must play them with a master keyboard for more real feeling
and for the drum grooves:
http://www.ilio.com/spectrasonics/liqui ... index.html
http://www.ilio.com/spectrasonics/burni ... index.html
http://www.ilio.com/spectrasonics/backbeat/index.html
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=BS-383
http://www.ilio.com/ilio/bbb/index.html
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=AI-101
and for the bass grooves:
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=YT-103
http://www.ilio.com/spectrasonics/bassl ... index.html
Buy digi 001 from digidesign (on ebay)very good quality very good price
and for the pre's:
http://www.brentaverill.com/312a/
also:
dbx 166 compressor limiter and just a few mics:sm 57/senn421/a condenser like akg 414
and yamaha ns 10 monitor'cause if you must hear really good your tracks
Serch for this gear on ebay or however in used gear
also for just a little acoustc stuff
www.auralex.com
best of luck for your recording sessions
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Hi,
I'm kind of in the same position as jamtheguitarman, but I think I kind of have an idea about what I'd want and just don't know how to make it less expensive!

Basically I'm a guitar player, so from what I've read I think I would want the following:

1. A PC (or Mac, but I've heard PC recording would be cheaper) into which I could play guitar and bass, keyboards, do vocals and maybe use a MIDI drum kit.
2. Samples of drums and a few effects (so a decent sampler basically, but with particularly good drum sounds)
3. A guitar port/preamp with lots of amp types and effects
4. A sequencer (like Cubase, Cakewalk, Pro Tools, you know the sort of thing I mean)
5. A MIDI keyboard
6. A MIDI controller
7. A driver (admittedly I don't actually know what these are!)
8. As I'm looking to record guitars and basses I could use a channel strip
9. Compressor microphones
10. A MIDI drum kit (I could manage without one though as long as I had some way of playing/recording realistic drums).

Basically, I have guitars, basses and a wah pedal that I could use, everything else needs to come in new. Feel free to add anything else important that you think I may have overlooked.

For a PC I'd need as fast a processor as possible so as to avoid latency (let's say 3.2 GHz or more), a dual CD R/RW and DVD R/RW, good speakers, a 19 inch monitor/display, an audio interface (soundcard plus multiple ports), USB/Firewire ports and at least two (preferably three) hard drives, one of at least 160 GB for audio files and another for software of maybe 40GB minimum.

The problem is that I've had a go at piecing together what I'd need priced as new and it would cost something like £4,000-£4,500 (I'm from the UK by the way)! There is no way I can afford that and to be honest I can't envisage a situation where I'll ever have that kind of money to spare on a luxury like music recording equipment. I'd be prepared to spend about £2,000 to £2,500 top whack.

What I wondered, out of curiosity, was whether any of you computer experts would have any idea of how to put together something that does the job of recording guitars, basses, vocals and uses a decent sequencer and sampler, on a PC or Mac that doesn't have latency problems, for much cheaper than that. I wonder if it could be just a case of waiting until what's good now becomes outdated and therefore becomes cheaper? Does anyone have any answers?

Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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Hi skyscraper.
have a look at this computer at the top of the page. i think this is what im going to go for, with a few alterations. it seems to be what most people use for pro tools le. it would also work well with another setup like cubase or something, i think. Pro tools looks like exactly what i would need plus with the new one thats just come out (6.7) the midi is supposed to be alot better. if you want to build that computer yourself look for the parts on Ebuyer or if you want the shop to do it look at microdirect or microland. cant remember which is cheaper. Pro tools seems to be what most studios use so it would also be pretty handy to learn that. hope that helps a little.
Jamie



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Cheers Jamie,
I'm not sure if I'm in a position to buy something now, I mean I have the money but I'm not sure if I'll put it there or get an Ibanez JEM and work on my technique and theory more first before I get a PC or Mac. I think what I might do in fact is just wait until what's really good now goes out of date and becomes much cheaper - I might move house in the next year or so so I suppose that makes more sense than buying loads of gear and then having to move it anyway. I did want to know more about cheaper options though so thanks for that, and that looks as good as what I would want to be honest even though I might wait a bit before I commit to something. The reason for thinking about it now is that once you decide to do something like this, you find you've been left way behind and don't know where to start! In that sense it's good to ask about things early and work out what works for you.

Cheers for the help,
Steven.
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ok, i was reading this post about recording and I had to join just to tell you this. I'm not a knowledgable recording guy but I know about computers. Now it's probably ok to buy a computer, but if you want a really good computer and cheap, the best route is to build one yourself. It maight seem hard but it's not. I did it, and I'm using it right now. I built a $3,000-4,000 computer for $1,000-1,500. For the computers you would buy already built they might use a namebrand processor and videocard but everything else is crap. So if you are willing to build your own computer I recommend it. If you have serious questions on where to start you can ask me. But what i would do is register in the pcmech.com forums. There are a bunch of computer geeks there that know everything about computers and how to get good deals. That's where I went to start my research. sorry for the long post but it would save alot of money and you can get a seriously good computer. Here are my comp. specs and how much I paid for it:


p4 3.2 ghz northwood / asus p4c800-e deluxe / 2x512 mb corsair xms xl pc3200 2-2-2-5 / ati radeon 9800 pro 128 mb / 2x WD raptor 10,000 rpm 36.7 gb raid 0 / lite-on 8x dvd-rw / asus 16x dvd-rom / antec p160 case / enlight 420w psu / logitech mx duo / logitech z640 / viewsonic p95f+ 19" crt

If you know anything about computers you know this is good stuff and I only paid $1500 for it. I hope i convinced you. :wink:
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You convinced me! :D

The main thing I find to be a stumbling block is hard drive space. I've read I should have two drives at least, one of around 40GB for software and one of around 160GB for audio files, so I should get a PC with ATA drives, whatever that means. I see computers with good processing speed and more or less everything else for about £500 here in the UK, but they have, for want of a better word, weeny hard drives. I also don't know how many Firewire/USB ports my PC should have for recording, so that's been part of the reason why I haven't bought one yet. Any thoughts?
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First thing i wuold recommend is to join the forums at PcMechanic (pcmech.com). You can ask them as many questions as you want and they will always answer on a timely fashion. Just tell them you want a computer for recording music(mainly guiat i guess) and about what price range. THey'll give you multiple suggestions for parts. I bought most of my parts from newegg.com. THey have everything at very cheap prices. But first thing i would do is just research on the net and at the pcmech forums. hope that helps. :wink:
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